Posts Tagged ‘Yao Ming’

Tough ‘talk’ … from a NBA coach’s perspective

November 14, 2008

“When the going gets tough, the tough get going.”Anonymous

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With the ‘taunting‘ that took place in the Raptors vs Celtics game, earlier this week, and the ‘skirmish‘ which then developed in the Rockets vs Suns ‘tussle’ … What qualifies as authentic Toughness, in the NBA today? … is a pertinent subject.

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Mitchell’s tough talk
“We want to be tougher from the standpoint of playing tougher defence, but I don’t get into that toughness thing,” Mitchell said. “The NBA has rules and no one is going to let you physically beat anyone up, and you can’t get into a guys face and trash talk or wave your finger in a guy’s face,” he added, clearly taking a shot at the crew that officiated the game in Boston on Monday and let Kevin Garnett do just that without being penalized.

“For me that stuff doesn’t mean anything,” Mitchell said. “For me toughness is executing. Going to set picks when you are supposed to set picks. Make hard cuts. Run the floor. Those types of things. Being mentally tough for me is when the game comes to a grind, being able to execute. That other stuff is more for the cameras. You really want to find out who is tough? Meet me behind the arena or in a back alley where it’s just you and I. Then you find out who is tough and who is fake tough because the camera is on.”

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Know that this space agrees 100% with the perspective of the Raptors’ head coach.

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Of particular interest, though, is the extent to which, the sentiments expressed by yours truly, sometimes, elsewhere in the blogosphere [in this case, yesterday] …

Sixers exact revenge as Wings waste Big 3 effort, Comment #119

… have a n almost magical way of preceding [by a day or two] echoing that which a real life NBA coach has to say on a specific matter.

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Yao Ming or Andrew Bynum: Part II (the call)

August 7, 2008

The votes for last week’s on-line survey have been tabulated.

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Who is the better player, Yao or Bynum?

Now – Yao 11; Bynum 11
Later – Yao 8; Bynum 14

Which one would Phil Jackson choose as the Center for his team?

Yao 6
Bynum 15

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In sharp contrast to what phdsteve originally postulated … i.e. Yao Ming is a vastly superior player to Andrew Bynum AND the player Phil Jackson would select if asked to choose between the two, as the Center for his team …

Survey Says, “This is far from the definitive perception held by others in the on-line basketball community.”

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Concerning this Corner’s specific rationale …

 

Table 1 

ANDREW BYNUM (7-0, 285 LBS, 20 YRS)                                         Season Averages

 

 

Year

Team/Age

G

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

05-06

LAL/18

46

0

7.3

0.402

0.000

0.296

0.7

1.0

1.7

0.2

0.1

0.5

0.37

1.20

1.6

06-07

LAL/19

82

53

21.9

0.558

0.000

0.668

1.7

4.2

5.9

1.1

0.2

1.6

1.40

3.00

7.8

07-08

LAL/20

35

25

28.8

0.636

0.000

0.695

3.0

7.2

10.2

1.7

0.3

2.1

1.49

2.80

13.1

08-09

LAL/21

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

09-10

???/22

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

10-11

???/23

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

11-12

???/24

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

12-13

???/25

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

13-14

???/26

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

14-15

???/27

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

  

Table 2

YAO MING (7-6, 310 LBS, 27 YRS)                                                    Season Averages

Year

Team/Age

G

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

98-99

NA/18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99-00

NA/19

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

00-01

NA/20

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

01-02

NA/21

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

02-03

HOU/22

82

72

29.0

0.498

0.500

0.811

2.4

5.8

8.2

1.7

0.4

1.8

2.11

2.80

13.5

03-04

HOU/23 *

82

82

32.8

0.522

0.000

0.809

2.4

6.6

9.0

1.5

0.3

1.9

2.49

3.30

17.5

04-05

HOU/24 *

80

80

30.6

0.552

0.000

0.783

2.6

5.8

8.4

0.8

0.4

2.0

2.45

3.70

18.3

05-06

HOU/25 *

57

57

34.2

0.519

0.000

0.853

2.6

7.6

10.2

1.5

0.5

1.6

2.58

3.40

22.3

06-07

HOU/26 *

48

48

33.8

0.516

0.000

0.862

2.1

7.3

9.4

2.0

0.3

2.0

3.48

3.30

25.0

07-08

HOU/27 *

55

55

37.2

0.507

0.000

0.850

3.1

7.7

10.8

2.3

0.4

2.0

3.33

3.10

22.0

 

As a Center in the NBA, at 20 years of age, Andrew Bynum is superior to Yao Ming in every statistical category imaginable with the following Career Averages:

 

Table 3

Career Averages up to 20 Years of Age

 

AGE

GP

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

ANDREW BYNUM

20 (3 Years)

163

78

19.3

0.571

0.000

0.649

1.7

3.9

5.6

1.0

0.2

1.3

1.13

2.50

7.2

YAO MING

20 (0 Years)

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

  

Table 4

Career Averages from 22 – 27 Years of Age

 

Yrs/All-Star

GP

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

ANDREW BYNUM

0

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

YAO MING

6/5-Time

404

394

32.5

0.520

0.111

0.826

2.5

6.6

9.2

1.6

0.4

1.8

2.65

3.30

19.0

  

Given the ‘Rate of Progress’ Andrew Bynum has shown during his first 3 seasons in the NBA [Table 1], at 18, 19 and 20 Years of Age, respectively, and the ‘Rate of Progress’ Yao Ming has shown from 22 – 27 Years Of Age [Table 2] … barring a major injury … it is reasonable to expect that Andrew Bynum will surpass the production values of Yao Ming, at comparable ages.


At this stage of his career [i.e. 20 Years of Age/3 seasons in the NBA], Andrew Bynum [Table 3] is a better basketball player than Yao Ming [Table 4], in terms of Field Goal Shooting Accuracy, Rebounding, Passing, Shot-blocking, Generating of Steals/Turnovers, and Overall Athleticism [Horizontal & Vertical Quickness, Explosive Power, and Coordination].


IMO
, if Phil Jackson [LA Lakers coach] was asked today to choose between Yao Ming and Andrew Bynum to fill the Center position on his team, the ZenMaster would select Andrew Bynum.


Bynum runs the floor better in transition [Offensively & Defensively].
Bynum is a more athletic Shot-blocker.
Bynum is a better ‘finisher’, in the air, around the basket.
Bynum is a better sized defender when asked/needed to ‘switch’ checks with a smaller player.


Bynum is at least as good if not a better Rebounder.
Bynum is at least as good if not a better Passer.
Bynum is at least as good if not a better Generator of Steals/Turnover.


Yao
is a better Mid-range Shooter.
Yao is a better Free Throw Shooter.


As a complimentary player to Kobe Bryant [Alpha Male No. 1], Bynum is a better fit with a team coached by Phil Jackson which uses the Triangle Offense and relies primarily on players with high levels of agility [physical & mental] on Defense and when Rebounding.


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Thanks to all for participating!

Yao Ming or Andrew Bynum … You make the call

July 30, 2008

Initiated an interesting exchange earlier today on a differnt web site … RaptorsTalk.com … regarding the relative value of these two specific players which warrants further analysis.

phdsteve … believes that Yao Ming is the best 7-footer in the world, and that Phil Jackson would choose Yao Ming over Andrew Bynum as the Center for his team.

khandor (that’s me) … believes that Phil Jackson would choose Andrew Bynum over Yao Ming as the Center for his team.

What do the rest of you in cyberspace think?

All votes submitted in the ‘Comments’ section of this thread over the next 7 days will be tabulated and reported in this space Thursday, August 7, 2008 … with a complete rationale explaining the perspective of this corner, as well as others who might choose to participate.

On your marks …

Get set …

and

Go!

Where the Rockets go from here

March 14, 2008

A 20-game winning streak … which equals the 2nd longest in NBA history … has propelled the Houston Rockets to the upper echelon of different Power Rankings compiled by NBA experts …

2007-2008 Holinger Power Rankings
FoxSports NBA Power Rankings
Yahoo! Sports NBA Weekly Power Rankings

And, yet … there are still divergent opinions about Houston’s long term prospects for

i) making the playoffs this season (in the ultra difficult Western Conference);
ii) going beyond the 1st Round of the Playoffs; and, eventually,
iii) winning a 3rd NBA championship.

Rocket’s Moneyball approach paying dividends (Mar. 13)

Kenny Smith – the Rocket’s prospects without Yao (Mar. 6)

Q1. What’s ahead for the Rocket’s version of NBA Moneyball?

A1. The current edition of the Rockets are built to (i) withstand a season-ending injury to their dominating #1 Center, (ii) win their fair share of regular season games, and (iii) even put together an historic 21-game winning streak … but, unfortunately, just like the principles of “MoneyBall” tend to run out of steam, annually, in the MLB post-season tournament … so, too, will such a fate befall an outfit in the NBA that adheres to this ‘statistical-based’ methodology for constructing its team with designs on ‘going the distance’ in June.

As Moses Malone first alluded to, 25 years ago … it (only) takes, “4, 4, 4 and (today) 4” wins to capture the NBA championship … and, MoneyBall-based teams, not built along these lines to begin with, are simply not equipped to get the job done right in this type of “quadruple 7-game series” environment.

NBA championships are won by teams that can …

I) Rebound, Defend and play efficient Offensive basketball, in a balanced way; with,

II) either 2 or 3 super ‘star’ players who can both (a) create and (b) take advantage of the different mis-match situations that exist on the floor, due to their unique and complimentary skill sets.

Without Yao, this no longer applies to the Houston Rockets.

Just watch & see.