Yao Ming or Andrew Bynum: Part II (the call)

The votes for last week’s on-line survey have been tabulated.

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Who is the better player, Yao or Bynum?

Now – Yao 11; Bynum 11
Later – Yao 8; Bynum 14

Which one would Phil Jackson choose as the Center for his team?

Yao 6
Bynum 15

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In sharp contrast to what phdsteve originally postulated … i.e. Yao Ming is a vastly superior player to Andrew Bynum AND the player Phil Jackson would select if asked to choose between the two, as the Center for his team …

Survey Says, “This is far from the definitive perception held by others in the on-line basketball community.”

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Concerning this Corner’s specific rationale …

 

Table 1 

ANDREW BYNUM (7-0, 285 LBS, 20 YRS)                                         Season Averages

 

 

Year

Team/Age

G

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

05-06

LAL/18

46

0

7.3

0.402

0.000

0.296

0.7

1.0

1.7

0.2

0.1

0.5

0.37

1.20

1.6

06-07

LAL/19

82

53

21.9

0.558

0.000

0.668

1.7

4.2

5.9

1.1

0.2

1.6

1.40

3.00

7.8

07-08

LAL/20

35

25

28.8

0.636

0.000

0.695

3.0

7.2

10.2

1.7

0.3

2.1

1.49

2.80

13.1

08-09

LAL/21

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

09-10

???/22

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

10-11

???/23

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

11-12

???/24

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

12-13

???/25

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

13-14

???/26

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

14-15

???/27

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

  

Table 2

YAO MING (7-6, 310 LBS, 27 YRS)                                                    Season Averages

Year

Team/Age

G

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

98-99

NA/18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99-00

NA/19

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

00-01

NA/20

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

01-02

NA/21

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

02-03

HOU/22

82

72

29.0

0.498

0.500

0.811

2.4

5.8

8.2

1.7

0.4

1.8

2.11

2.80

13.5

03-04

HOU/23 *

82

82

32.8

0.522

0.000

0.809

2.4

6.6

9.0

1.5

0.3

1.9

2.49

3.30

17.5

04-05

HOU/24 *

80

80

30.6

0.552

0.000

0.783

2.6

5.8

8.4

0.8

0.4

2.0

2.45

3.70

18.3

05-06

HOU/25 *

57

57

34.2

0.519

0.000

0.853

2.6

7.6

10.2

1.5

0.5

1.6

2.58

3.40

22.3

06-07

HOU/26 *

48

48

33.8

0.516

0.000

0.862

2.1

7.3

9.4

2.0

0.3

2.0

3.48

3.30

25.0

07-08

HOU/27 *

55

55

37.2

0.507

0.000

0.850

3.1

7.7

10.8

2.3

0.4

2.0

3.33

3.10

22.0

 

As a Center in the NBA, at 20 years of age, Andrew Bynum is superior to Yao Ming in every statistical category imaginable with the following Career Averages:

 

Table 3

Career Averages up to 20 Years of Age

 

AGE

GP

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

ANDREW BYNUM

20 (3 Years)

163

78

19.3

0.571

0.000

0.649

1.7

3.9

5.6

1.0

0.2

1.3

1.13

2.50

7.2

YAO MING

20 (0 Years)

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

  

Table 4

Career Averages from 22 – 27 Years of Age

 

Yrs/All-Star

GP

GS

MPG

FG%

3P%

FT%

OFF

DEF

RPG

APG

SPG

BPG

TO

PF

PPG

ANDREW BYNUM

0

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

N-A

YAO MING

6/5-Time

404

394

32.5

0.520

0.111

0.826

2.5

6.6

9.2

1.6

0.4

1.8

2.65

3.30

19.0

  

Given the ‘Rate of Progress’ Andrew Bynum has shown during his first 3 seasons in the NBA [Table 1], at 18, 19 and 20 Years of Age, respectively, and the ‘Rate of Progress’ Yao Ming has shown from 22 – 27 Years Of Age [Table 2] … barring a major injury … it is reasonable to expect that Andrew Bynum will surpass the production values of Yao Ming, at comparable ages.


At this stage of his career [i.e. 20 Years of Age/3 seasons in the NBA], Andrew Bynum [Table 3] is a better basketball player than Yao Ming [Table 4], in terms of Field Goal Shooting Accuracy, Rebounding, Passing, Shot-blocking, Generating of Steals/Turnovers, and Overall Athleticism [Horizontal & Vertical Quickness, Explosive Power, and Coordination].


IMO
, if Phil Jackson [LA Lakers coach] was asked today to choose between Yao Ming and Andrew Bynum to fill the Center position on his team, the ZenMaster would select Andrew Bynum.


Bynum runs the floor better in transition [Offensively & Defensively].
Bynum is a more athletic Shot-blocker.
Bynum is a better ‘finisher’, in the air, around the basket.
Bynum is a better sized defender when asked/needed to ‘switch’ checks with a smaller player.


Bynum is at least as good if not a better Rebounder.
Bynum is at least as good if not a better Passer.
Bynum is at least as good if not a better Generator of Steals/Turnover.


Yao
is a better Mid-range Shooter.
Yao is a better Free Throw Shooter.


As a complimentary player to Kobe Bryant [Alpha Male No. 1], Bynum is a better fit with a team coached by Phil Jackson which uses the Triangle Offense and relies primarily on players with high levels of agility [physical & mental] on Defense and when Rebounding.


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Thanks to all for participating!

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6 Responses to “Yao Ming or Andrew Bynum: Part II (the call)”

  1. Yao vs. Bynum « Nothin but BBall Says:

    […] Yao vs. Bynum This is probably one of the most complete posts I’ve seen for a while. Khandor posted a completely detailed list of everything related to Bynum and Yao. […]

  2. mao Says:

    One thing that you didn’t factor in, and to be completely fair I don’t know how you’d quantify it, is the fact that unlike Andrew Bynum who probably spent his whole life playing AAU ball and being coddled and coached by the best around and then being coached by Phil Jackson, Yao grew up in China. The government probably controlled everything about his life, athletically and otherwise, from the time they realized he was a talented individual. He’s probably been poked and prodded by doctors, he’s been sent all over the world playing with the national team, etc.

    So, while your measurements for potential future ability/numbers make sense, there’s something to be said for the freedom of flexibility and choice that simply doesn’t (or at least didn’t) exist when Yao was growing up in China.

  3. FeetinthePaint Says:

    Word, MAO.

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  6. erwoiu Says:

    Why dont you ask Phil Jackson who he would pick? I don’t think he will need extensive detailed year by year comparisons before deciding that he would choose Yao over Bynum. Amare would go over Bynum as well. Garnett would too. Duncan would too. even Tyson Chandler would.

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