This is the first two months of the schedule for the Dinos:
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October |
Opponent |
Expected Outcome |
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Wed 29 |
L [1] |
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Fri 31 |
vs Golden State |
W [1] |
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November |
Opponent |
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Sat 01 |
? |
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Wed 05 |
vs Detroit |
L [2] |
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Fri 07 |
@ Atlanta |
? |
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Sun 09 |
? |
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Mon 10 |
@ Boston |
L [3] |
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Wed 12 |
vs Philadelphia |
W [2] |
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Sun 16 |
vs Miami |
W [3] |
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Tue 18 |
@ Orlando |
L [4] |
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Wed 19 |
@ Miami |
? |
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Fri 21 |
vs New Jersey |
W [4] |
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Sun 23 |
vs Boston |
L [5] |
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Wed 26 |
vs Charlotte |
W [5] |
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Fri 28 |
vs Atlanta |
W [6] |
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Sun 30 |
L [6] |
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December |
Opponent |
|
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Tue 02 |
@ Denver |
L [7] |
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Fri 05 |
@ Utah |
L [8] |
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Sun 07 |
vs Portland |
L [9] |
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Tue 09 |
L [10] |
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Wed 10 |
vs Indiana |
L [11] |
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Fri 12 |
L [12] |
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Sun 14 |
vs New Orleans |
L [13] |
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Mon 15 |
vs New Jersey |
W [7] |
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Wed 17 |
vs Dallas |
L [14] |
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Fri 19 |
L [15] |
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Sat 20 |
L [16] |
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Mon 22 |
L [17] |
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Fri 26 |
L [18] |
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Sat 27 |
@ Portland |
L [19] |
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Mon 29 |
W [8] |
LEGEND:
W – Expected Win; L – Expected Loss; ? – Undetermined; [#] - W/L Number
With possible expected outcomes of …
8 W’s,
19 L’s, and
4 Undetermined’s
which would generate five possible W-L records for this team by January 1, 2009:
i) 0-4 on Undetermined’s = 8 W, 23 L;
ii) 1-3 on Undetermined’s = 9 W, 22 L;
iii) 2-2 on Undetermined’s = 10 W, 21 L;
iv) 3-1 on Undetermined’s = 11 W, 20 L; and,
v) 4-0 on Undetermined’s = 12 W, 19 L.
None of which is very good.
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Q1. Is it possible that a team could trade for a 6-time NBA All-Star; line him up beside two other solid NBA players, like Chris Bosh & Jose Calderon … and, then, somehow still finish the 2008 portion of its schedule with a W-L record like one of those five options above?
A1. You bet it is.
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Each of the L’s listed above is a very losable game for this Raptors team, this season, given (I) the losses of Rasho Nesterovic, Carlos Delfino and TJ Ford from last year’s squad, and (II) the expected improvement from other teams in the League that have re-tooled their rosters heading into this campaign … BY INCREASING their Quality Depth, e.g Philadelphia, Indiana, New Jersey, Oklahoma City, LA Clippers & Sacramento.
If the Raptors are going to avoid this type of backwards step this season … keep a close watch on how they do in their first 6 games AND the 15 games from Nov 30 to Dec 27.
Struggle early, like they did two years ago, and the temperature is going to rise significantly in Raptorville.
Successfully navigate these two stretches … with, say, a .400 mark [or better] … then it should be clear sailing from there, as one of the 8 teams in the East to eventually qualify for the Playoffs this season.
Tags: Carlos Delfino, Chris Bosh, Jermaine O'Neal, Jose Calderon, Rasho Nesterovic, TJ Ford
October 3, 2008 at 12:41 pm |
Well, yes those games are loseable.
Re: is it possible…?
Anything’s possible.
Probable? I say no. You’ve got them expected to lose EVERY game they play against a superior opponent and MOST games against teams I would consider in the same tier or worse than the Raptors (Orlando, Sacramento, OKC), and uncertain against bottom feeders such as Milwaukee, Charlotte, Atlanta.
I wouldn’t exactly die of shock if those results were to occur. However even you have to admit that the results listed above are extremely pessimistic. Not quite ‘worst case’, but awfully close.
October 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm |
My ‘luck’ basis: a team will win those games against teams it is better than, lose those games against superior teams, and split the games against those teams considered approximately similar in talent level.
Basic ‘karma’ concept: any results that differ from the above suggestion in a negative fashion will be countered by results that differ in a positive fashion. i.e. a loss to an inferior team will be balanced by a win against a superior team.
This balance is the only way to PREDICT results without skewing to a PESSIMISTIC or OPTIMISTIC view, which by definition are either MORE negative or positive than a REALISTIC view.
As such: Weaker teams on above list – Milwaukee, Atlanta (2), Charlotte (2), NJ (3), Indiana, Sacramento, OKC = 10 expected wins
Similar teams – Miami (2), Philly (2), GS (2), Denver, Portland (2), Dallas, LAC = 11 toss-ups = 5.5 W + 5.5 L
Superior teams – Detroit, Boston (2), Orlando, LAL, Utah, Cleveland, NO, SAS = 9 losses
So: my expected record: 15.5 – 14.5 (W-L)
Personally, I even feel this is a SLIGHTLY pessimistic view, as I felt Miami, Orlando, Cleveland, and LAC were between tiers and I placed them in the UPPER of those two tiers.
Obviously these won’t be the actual results, but I see no reason to believe (leaving injuries aside) that the actual results should be closer to your PESSIMISTIC predictions than to my ATTEMPTED realistic predictions.
And by attempted, I obviously mean that it is based largerly on my perception of the quality of teams relative to each other and not on statistics or another measure of team quality.
Of course, if injuries are GUARANTEED to occur to EACH and EVERY team, then the argument of ‘added quality depth’ carries more weight and I would expect the Raptors to indeed have a record similar to your above predictions.
October 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm |
Apologies for using your blog as a soapbox.
October 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm |
Dan H,
There’s no apology necessary.
IMO … part of what a blog’s about is sharing information & ideas with others who might have a similar interest.
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That said … I happen to disagree with much of what you just tried to say in those three ^^^ comments right there, re: pessimism, optimism, realism, guarantees, hypothetical projections, etc.
If I have enough time later today, I’ll try and explain myself further.
[sorta busy right now with a couple of other time-sensitive items on my plate]
October 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
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October 5, 2008 at 11:29 am |
If you feel that your expertise tells you the Rap’s are going to win 2 and lose 13 in Dec then you better stick to forcasting dog show results and forget about a sports blog.
October 5, 2008 at 2:20 pm |
Dan H & Johnn19,
Sorry for the delay.
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Are you familiar with the following information … from David Sparks’ “Operationalizing Interestingness” in the NBA.
If not, I suggest you read it, first … digest it, second … and then, third, we can talk further about what a pessimistic, optimistic and/or realistic viewpoint might be toward the Raptors’ projected W-L record for the up-coming season.
Hit me back with another comment here … at that point.
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PS. Also, as you’re keeping an open mind, please remember that:
i) I have not prognosticated that the Raptors will go 2-13 in December; and,
ii) I am firmly in the camp which believes that statistical analyses of basketball, in isolation … almost always … proves very little of anything.
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